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Wolf3D Map

Postby johnno56 » June 15th, 2009, 6:44 pm

I have created a crude map of level 1 of the old DOS game of Wolfenstien3D. Yes, I know the game is not "kid friendly", but it is just a map. I am yet to start on the scripting. I am going to pester you guys to no end on that point.

I have made an overall screenshot of the map. Hopefully, I have the code setup correctly. Opinions and suggestions are more than welcome. Yes, even criticism!

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Re: Wolf3D Map

Postby GoBologna120 » June 15th, 2009, 7:45 pm

Looks rather monotonous. Might I suggest some variation in textures, or possibly some mapmodels?
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Re: Wolf3D Map

Postby johnno56 » June 16th, 2009, 12:17 am

Excellent. Constructive criticism.

I agree. It is rather monotonous. About as exciting as watching paint dry or mould growing.

My original attempt had each "room" with a different wall texture and the connecting "hallway" were wood-panelled. It was also created using Sauerbraten. (Impressive collection of mapmodels and textures.) This map was created with Sandbox and was kept "simple" to display the overall map.

Mapmodels have not been decided on yet. I am assuming in reference to the decor. ie: wall lights, furniture etc

If you have any suggestions as to what it needs, I am all ears.

The map was created by experimenting with the mouse and keyboard. I did not have any documentation at the time. Since then, wiki as well as forum members have been very helpful.

Thank you for your comments and suggestions.

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Re: Wolf3D Map

Postby GoBologna120 » June 16th, 2009, 1:04 pm

If you're going for a creepy feel, try using some torches on the walls. For extra effect, put fire particles on the torch and a short range orange light. I used that here:



NOTE: I'm using the Dev Version, so it may look a little different on yours.

Also, you might want to add items that you can pick up and use.
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Re: Wolf3D Map

Postby johnno56 » June 16th, 2009, 5:51 pm

Great looking torches! I will try that which you suggest. Your "rooms" are huge! Mine will give you claustrophobia... I have only experimented with lighting and am not very good at it yet. But, I do not plan to give up. I noticed when I start Sandbox, the "House" demo loads. It has sound. ie: the fire crackles. I am aware that sounds can be added to a map. Can ANY sound be added? I mean, can any sound be imported from an external source? What format is required? ie: mp3, ogg, wav, midi? How would that be scripted?

Sorry if my questions are too basic. Basic is all I know.

Thanks for the advise.

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Re: Wolf3D Map

Postby GoBologna120 » June 16th, 2009, 6:34 pm

You have to add a mapsound to your map to hear the sounds. If you look at the .cfg, you'll find what sounds load with your map. I think you can add any sound as long as it's in a supported format. Heck, you can have a waterfall make gun sounds if you want. :lol: I highly recomend .ogg files. Come to think of it, that may not be a bad idea... ;)

And yeah. I like large areas where the player can roam freely and do whatever.

EDIT: For the torches, you can use the fireplace sound. I just tried it out.
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Re: Wolf3D Map

Postby Hirato » June 16th, 2009, 8:20 pm

the sounds can be either wav of ogg, there's 3 other formats too, but they require additional libraries to be installed on non-windows systems, those formats are as follows...

MP3 - requires smpeg (present in windows packages)
MID - requires timidity (as far as I can tell, windows uses it's own synthesizers)
MOD - requires mikmod, no idea how it works out on windows

so vorbis is obviously the best to use for patent, legal, and compatibility issues
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Re: Wolf3D Map

Postby johnno56 » June 16th, 2009, 8:45 pm

GoBalogna120,

Thanks for the sound advise. ;) I will try it out as soon as I can.

Hirato,

Thank you also for the assist. My Linux machine is fully loaded for all the formats you suggested.

Looks like ogg it is.

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Re: Wolf3D Map

Postby johnno56 » June 16th, 2009, 8:58 pm

GoBalogna120,

Just remembered. I finally worked out how to put doors into my map!! It may not sound like a big deal for you guys, but for this noob, woo hoo! I followed an example with Sauerbraten and applied it to Sandbox. Had to print out the mapmodel numbers and the Trigger types/states. For doors to open automatically, I placed the door in edit mode using /newent mapmodel 110 10 5. "10" to open as you approach and close a few seconds after going through. Cool. Using "11" (locked) as no drama. Placed a key. Scripted the trigger to unlock. Cool. The doors are still huge. I cannot figure out how to reduce them in size (mdlscale did not work) so it looks like I will have to up scale my map. Looks like your "wide open spaces" is the way to go.

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